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Small Bore Tenor Trombones

These horns are the sports cars of the trombonist's arsenal. For many players, these can be the most commonly used size of horn. I use my Shires Jazz horn for combos and big bands, pit orchestras, Latin and swing bands, recordings, and it might even have a place in the symphony when a lighter sound is required. If you need to play alto trombone but don't have one, use a small bore tenor instead. Student model trombones are included here, as the dimensions tend to be similar, so if you are still learning the trombone (aren't we all) and want something nice, look here. The price range of horns on this page ranges from $650 to $3020, so there can be a horn for every budget. Please contact us for details.

Model

Description

Price

S.E. Shires Small Bore

This hand built Shires trombone from Boston has been my number one choice since I first played it. In fact, I assimilated the first one we received into my personal collection. I use a .500" bore nickel slide and an 8" 1YM, Yellow brass, Medium weight bell with a soldered rim, but it's a custom, modular instrument, and many options are available. The Shires feels like a heavier instrument than most of the others here, but responds very fast, and feels of great flexibility, precise accuracy, and easy response despite having a great big dark sound. It's easy to push a lot of air through this horn without getting blatty. This may be the small horn for guys who like big horns, as it's the most open feel of any smaller trombone. This is a great lead horn in a big band, though I sometimes feel like I get buried when I have to play louder in the low or mid range. That is easily remedied with a smaller or lighter bell, but I'm instantly at home on this instrument, and would not change a thing.  I've used it a lot in the orchestra pits, and it works great too. This horn has some of the best projection, but has a clear compact soft sound, like a great Conn 6H , but bigger, and smoother. It plays a lot like the King 2B+ too. But better.  Yes, it's a bit pricier than most of the other axes around, but it helped me play better and become happier about playing my small horn.  I felt it was more than worth the high price. Includes three lead pipes.  Case and mouthpiece are sold separately.  Call for info and availability. Shires FAQ

Popular bell options we usually have:

  • 7.5" light weight yellow brass, soldered rim S1YLW7.5
  • 7.5" medium weight yellow brass, soldered rim S1YM7.5

These have a more compact sound than the 8" bells, and the lighter weight gives them a faster response and some nice sizzle to the tone. The LW version is the favorite of my colleague Charlie Morillas. This may be the favorite bell for King players, and reminds me of the 2B+ sound. 

  • 8" medium weight yellow brass, soldered rim S1YM8

This is the bell I use on my personal Shires horn, and is the Williams style bell.  It's smooth sounding with a big warm sound, but a fast response like a Conn, but with better tone and no blattiness. Can be too dark for some players.

  • 7.75" medium weight yellow brass, unsoldered rim S2YM7.75  - by special order

This is more of a classic Conn 6H style bell. This is Bruce Paulson's and Greg Soloman's favorite, and has a slightly faster and easier response than the 1YM bell, above. It also makes a more diffuse sound, so it may not feel like your sound is as loud as with the 1YM. But, there is more of a variety of tone colors as you change dynamics, so you can sound louder without playing louder. Nice. Get this bell with the T00LW brass slide for the ultimate 100H type horn,

  • 7.75" medium weight gold brass, soldered rim S1GM7.75 - by special order

This has a warmer sound, but still projects well.  The 1/4" smaller diameter helps keep the tone centered and clear.

Slide Options we usually have:

  • Nickel: .500" bore lightweight T00NLW - standard slide
  • Nickel: .508" bore lightweight T08NLW - open feel
  • Brass: .485"/.495" dual bore: T8595 - vintage King style
  • Brass: 500" bore lightweight T00LW - warmer sound than the .500" nickel

If you'd like a different bell or slide combination for your dream custom horn, please ask.

 

$3020

Kanstul 1606

 

Zig Kanstul, the master horn builder in Anaheim, California, has recreated the classic Williams 6 trombone with his new model 1606. This new Kanstul trombone features the classic Williams style large bell taper and distinctive bracing found on the vintage models, but also adds several bell and slide options and removable leadpipes. The stock model 1606 has a lightweight .500" slide made of all nickel with a curved hand brace, and features an 8" brass bell made in one piece from .020" brass, and three threaded removable leadpipes based on vintage designs. The pipes use the same threads as Shires trombones, so they are interchangeable between brands. This horn has been getting rave reviews from players who tried it at its debut in Ithaca at the ITF 2004. Options include a brass slide for a warmer sound, or a heavier .025" bell for more projection, less sizzle, and a mellower sound more like the classic Williams' models.  In lacquered brass, or with silver plated finish.  Silver adds $250.  Includes an SKB hardcase.  Mouthpiece is sold separately.

Leadpipes, choose any 3:

  • S - Benge design, small throat, also used on KSL 750 and 760, similar to Bach LT16M pipe
  • W6 - Williams design, open throat
  • H6 - Burt Herrick design, originally made as a replacement for the stock Williams pipe, medium throat
  • H16 - Burt Herrick design, originally made as a replacement for the Bach 16, medium throat

Extra leadpipes are available threaded or unthreaded for $85 each.

NEW:  Also available by special order with F attachment, as the model 1607.  Price not set yet.

 

$2750

Kanstul 750

You can call it a student model, but this no frill horn is hand built to order with several options, and gives up little to most of the pro models.  This horn has been in the Kanstul catalog for some time, and has received only a little press.  Except from those who've played it.  While it's marketed towards the student, it's really a fine instrument, as Kanstul is a "one-quality" shop.  That is, they make all their instruments to the same standards, so this one has the excellent workmanship you'd expect from their pro models.  The lower price comes from the slightly heavier .025" two-piece bell, which costs less to make.  However, for an extra charge, a lightweight brass bell or a lightweight bronze (gold brass) bell is also available.  The 750 has its fans - including Bart Van Lier, who wailed on it at the 2004 Musikmesse trade show in Frankfurt. Also include Bill Watrous. This horn has a.500" all brass lightweight slide, and an 8" bell.  Includes an SKB case and a Kanstul 12C mouthpiece.  In lacquer finish; silver plate adds $250.  For those who haven't the budget for a new professional horn, this is very close for a much nicer price.

 

$781
Kanstul 760

The is the best deal on a small bore horn with open wrap F attachment.  It features a dual bore .500"/.530" slide, to allow a more open feel and make this a more versatile instrument than the 750, with which it shares many parts.

You see, you take your Kanstul 750 trombone, add a .500"/.530" dual bore slide to broaden the sound, then add a very sleek open wrap F attachment with an adjustable trigger paddle, and a wood case for style. There are only a few small bore trombones with F attachment out on the market at all, and no others of any quality can come close to this price. Shown in silver plate, but we usually order them in lacquer finish. Custom options are available, and can be built to your specs in 4-6 weeks. This horn has a new upgraded rotary valve that provides a more centered pitch than older versions. This horn has a narrow slide, so neck clearance is limited because of the rotary valve.  If you have a wide neck or prefer a wider slide when using an F attachment, you may need to hold this horn differently or choose a different model.  We tend to stock this model with a lightweight bronze bell, which warms up the sound and lightens the response.  We also add a more comfortable trigger paddle that comes from the Kanstul 1600-series bass trombones.  Includes wood case and Kanstul 12C mouthpiece.

 

$1288

King 2102S

This is the classic small bore tenor trombone, most often known as the King 2B.  It's been in production for many decades, and the name comes from the fact that it features a dual bore slide, hence the name 2B.  The slide is a smaller .481"/.491" bore, and is made of all nickel, with weighted outer tubes.  The stock model 2102 features a 7 3/8" yellow brass bell. It has been in production at King for many, many years, and there are so many good used ones floating around that we don't usually offer these in our new horn selection.  However, one notable option available for this King is a solid Sterling silver bell, and we do offer this version in stock as the King 2102S, also known as the Silversonic. The silver bell offers a weighty sound with lots of highs in it, and less warmth than the brass bells.  That way, the projection is excellent, but it doesn't get too strident if you push it.  While this horn may be small for many players, it still has a big following, including those doing live gigs, vintage big bands, and recording work.  I've lately been listening to the fabulous trombone playing of John Allred. He plays a 2B and sounds incredible.  Includes wood case and mouthpiece.  The Sterling bell version is lacquered over the metal, so it won't tarnish, and should not need polishing.  Also includes slide tune-up for smooth as glass action.  The photo at left shows a silver plated, gold trim version, but we stock the horn in clear lacquer.  It looks similar, because of the silver bell and nickel slide.

 

$2499

King 2102L Jiggs Whigham

This is the modern, lightweight, slightly larger version of the classic King 2B, designed for the famous bandleader and soloist Jiggs Whigham. It has a beautiful soft, compact, clear, on-the-mic sound that Los Angeles players like Andy Martin and Bob McChesney get, and this horn can sound like that. And Mr. Whigham himself has a great sound on this horn. Do look up some of his recordings.  It has a super fast response, especially when playing soft, its only limit might be that sometimes it seems to top out at a lower volume than other horns. You might say it can get blatty before its time. It has a more modern sound than the smaller dual bore 2102 (2B). This Jiggs model has a larger straight bore .491", nickel lightweight slide, 7 3/8" bell, and no counterweight. It can be ordered with an optional shorter tuning slide for those who prefer more extended positions. We stock the standard length version.  It's a very popular instrument in Los Angeles, and is also played by Alex Iles, Charlie Morillas, Alan Kaplan, and many others. Includes wood case and mouthpiece. Also includes slide tune-up for smooth as glass action.

 

$1599

King 2102PL

This new model has the standard King 2B-style 7 3/8" bell as above, but features a new .500" light weight brass slide.  This horn does everything the Jiggs Whigham model does, but at a slightly louder volume, and with the similar tone color. It might be a better horn for live gigs when you need to punch the volume more. This horn uses the King 3B slide/bell connector. Compared to the smaller Kings, this one has a warmer sound, and some people feel its tone can be more easily covered up in louder passages with a large band, but overall it's our favorite of the Kings, and is a best seller. If you're doing more live dates without a microphone, you may prefer this to the Jiggs model.  Includes wood case and mouthpiece. Also includes slide tune-up for smooth as glass action. Played in Los Angeles by Andy Martin, Bob Sanders, and many others.

 

$1599
King 2102PLG Same as above, but with a gold brass bell.  This allows a broader, warmer, more soloistic sound with less edge, and a bit less projection.  It makes you sound like you're using a larger instrument, but you get most of the easy response of the smaller one. We only sell a few of these, as many of the big band players prefer the more immediate projection and edge of the yellow brass bell.  But it's a beautiful instrument just to look at, with that gold bell, and it's a very versatile horn.  Try it with a small combo for a velvety smooth sound.  Also includes wood case, mouthpiece, and a slide tune-up.

 

$1679
King 2102PLS Same as above, but with a solid Sterling silver bell.  It is lacquered, so it won't need polishing like a silver plated horn.  The Sterling bell has a colder, crisper sound than the brass bell, feels weighty but bright, and is also quite a beautiful instrument.  Also includes wood case, mouthpiece, and a slide tune-up.

 

$2499
King 2103S

This larger jazz and all-around versatile horn has a .508" nickel slide and an 8" bell. The bell uses a larger mandrel than the 2102, 2102L, and 2102PL horns.  It has a larger throat, with better projection and a darker sound with less edge.  It still has great soft playing flexibility like the smaller Kings, but you can blow incredibly loud on this one, and still retain a sizzling soulful tone. Think of the beautiful tone of JJ Johnson, who played a 3B. This horn is popular with a number of Latin music players around California due to how loud you can play on this larger bore slide. One colleague of mine once said, "You only need two horns: 2B for jazz and 3B for church." 'Nuff said. For those who prefer an even larger king, see the .525" bore 3B+. Includes wood case and mouthpiece. Like the 2102 (2B), this instrument has been made for many years by King, and there are many used ones out there.  For that reason, we don't stock it in brass.  But, we do love the optional solid Sterling silver bell, and try to keep this version around as often as possible.  In fact, this Steling 2103S is one of my all-time favorite instruments, alongside the Shires and the Kanstul 1606.  It's a easy blow, an immediate response, and it feels very efficient.  While a horn like this is often categorized as a jazz trombone, some teachers recommend these or their students who have only one horn.  It works well in the jazz band, or also in a concert band with the right mouthpiece.  Includes wood case, mouthpiece, and a slide tune-up.

 

$2499
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Bach 12

 

We have one left, which was made in 2006, before the Bach strike, so this is a Union-made instrument.  This has a weighted .500" brass slide with nickel oversleeves at the hand brace.  This particular horn had a minor problem with the slide end crook, so we got creative and decided to have the slide rebuilt with a larger diameter King end crook, and it plays beautifully.  John Sandhagen did the conversion.  The slide was relaquered at Kanstul with a baked epoxy finish, which should last a very long time indeed.  The slide has also been tuned up for smooth as glass action.   This has been a common conversion with the equipment aficionados for years.  Includes Bach case and mouthpiece.

 

$1749
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Bach LT12

This is the professional model Bach Stradivarius, made in Elkhart, Indiana.  This is the essentially the same instrument as the model 12, but the outer slide is made of all nickel, and has no oversleeves at the hand brace.  That way, the slide is lighter for a feeling of faster action.  We also had John Sandhagen tune this one up for us, so the slide is really smooth and straight, and it should break in nicely.  Also made in early 2006 by Union labor at the Bach plant.  The nickel slide makes a brighter, slightly brittle sound that's excellent for a lead chair in a jazz band, and those who prefer a lighter slide tend to gravitate towards this model.  The nickel is harder, which encourages the brightness, but it's also more dent resistant, and does not corrode inside as easily as a brass slide can.  The Bach 12 is very popular horn in Los Angeles. It has a 7.5" bell, which is one of the very few trombone bells made out of one piece of brass.  That way, there is no seam in the bell throat, allowing a more even bell thickness and a resonant feel.  The bell is hand hammered and hand spun, which is a big improvement over lesser horns with machine spun bells.  Played around here by Bruce Paulson, Jacques Voyemont, and many others. This horn has a large grip, and may fit better for those with larger hands.  Includes Bach case and mouthpiece.

 

$1829
Yamaha YSL-697Z

New professional model is similar to a King 2B in specs, but has a slightly warmer sound and flawless workmanship.  it has a hand hammered bell, and the tone is surprisingly warm, especially if you've only played the older Yamaha instruments.  This is one of their best to date, and raises the standard of Yamaha to a very high art.  Andy Martin and Charlie Morillas have been seen playing these as of late.  Includes very sleek compact case and mouthpiece.

 

$1449
Yamaha YSL-691 Larger professional model has an 8" bell and .508" lightweight slide.  Includes 3 removable leadpipes and hard case.  Similar to King 3B. $1449
Yamaha YSL-354

This most consistently made student model has really fine workmanship for the price.  Any new player, young or old, should be proud to have one of these.  Includes case and mouthpiece.

 

MAP $924